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This interview was recorded on May 19 and published May 22, 2020.

Norm and his girlfriend were back in the U.S. for a visit and as the pandemic escalated they made the quick decision to leave the country again. Norm shares how he’s keeping himself busy and, for the first time on Grounded Nomads, we spend much of the episode talking about the future of travel—practically and emotionally, for ourselves and in general.