The way we each live our Nomadtopia often changes over time, so I’ve asked Valerie back on the show—two and a half years after she first joined me in February 2015—to share where she is now. We talked about how things have gone and what’s changed in her Nomadtopia—and why—in the last few years.

I include a clip from our earlier conversation at the beginning of this episode, but if you’d like to listen to the full episode from 2015 first, click here.